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of the house john boehner saying obamacare needs to be on the table in the fiscal cliff talks because, quote, we can't afford it. joining the company from washington is tea party founder justin phillips. come on. house republicans are over a barrel. they lost. what leverage do they have in these negotiations? >> you don't have much leverage when your full scrimmage john boehner's freshly laundered white flag of surrender. john boehner has ceded the field to the democrats. he is not even discussing the issue of spending. it is will lead the issue of revenue. there is going to be more new taxes, absolutely right because when we go to the negotiations, john boehner as usual is starting from a position of weakness. if you're going to start from a position of weakness where you have already given up on the spending side of the equation there's only one alternative, taxes get raised. dave: you mentioned spending. i remember 2009 was the stimulus, $800 billion, you can argue forever about whether it worked out all or not but it wasn't a 1-shot deal. we went up $800 billion and then it stayed. it di
, i'm going to get buck naked in front of john boehner's staff and so it is. getting naked is a tactic. a protest tactic and judging by the wide eyed tweets as it happened, today, nudity worked. see you again tomorrow night. now, it's time for "the last word" with lawrence o'donnell. >>> when kelly corey won the oscar for her first screen play 20 years ago, she had no idea that the heroes of her film, thelma and louise were going to become political role models. >> white house is continue to warn of dire consequences for the middle class. >> on friday, he'll return to the stumps. >> he's back on the campaign trail. >> the campaign style tour. >> trying to drum up public support for his budget priorities. >> seems like just another fight in washington. >> there are really two issues there. >> a revenue side, yes. >> where is that revenue going to come from? >> increasing tax rates is going to harm economic growth. >> warren buffett was out this morning talking about tacking the wealthy. >> time to make the tax rates more progressive. >> that's just silly. >> grover norquist, he wanted g
gerri: what's going to happen to fiscal talks after john boehner says obamacare needs to be part of the discussion, and don't important thing to bring with you when you shop this season, and, no, it's not your credit card. och unions muscling their way in. rich edson on unions trying to block spending cuts and the fiscal cliff deal while making sure the rich pay more. jeff flock with union back protests at wal-mart stores and diana on the dirty little secret those unions are not changing wal-mart workers. first to rich and some in washington, d.c.. how unions trying to persuade democratso avoid spending cuts? >> with a significant lobbying effort on capitol hill and a new advertising campaign targeted at democratic and republican lawmakers in pesylvania, virginia and missouri. the basic message is don't touch entitlements in the fiscal cliff tops we're having on capitol hill. honesty and one of the union says elected officials from both parties need to listen to the will of the voters and focus on rebuilding the middle class and strengthening our economy by investing in jobs, not
and the senate majority leader's office and john boehner's office, the house republicans. but so far what we've seen, at least in the principal, is really just highlighting the differences and how stark the differences are. yes, there have been some republicans who have publicly said they are open to poe tengts tax increases, revenue increases, but even more so we're seeing this entrenchment over the military spending cuts, the unwilling nness to see that and we're seeing on the democratic side the idea that maybe it wouldn't be so bad if we went over the fiscal cliff and kicked the can down the road to the next congress which will be more favorable from the liberal perspective to negotiating on these big picture issues. frankly, i think it would be harder to have a compromise on son-in-law of the entitlement reform that republicans want to see, at least some movement before they will agree before this talk of raising taxes will be anything more than the lip service that you mentioned. >> okay. so ken is suggesting there it's in republicans' interests to do a deal now. jared, the white house
. speaker john boehner deserves some leeway to try to mitigate the damage by negotiating a larger tax reform. leeway to negotiate sounds pretty sane to me. for some, of course, that's a great big lump of coal wrapped up as an early christmas present. >> revenue that happens to be the democratic code word for tax increases. that is simply not an acceptable position for any true conservative. republicans were not elected to rubber stamp obama's agenda. >> seems some news personalities may be taking a tax increase on the highest earners somewhat personally. anyway, republicans didn't win the white house or the senate. i wonder what other conservatives have to say about that. >> the republicans are in a shocking amount of disarray right now. the republican party has not developed an alternative idea set other than what mitt romney and paul ryan were campaigning on and sort of by default it has become their opening negotiation position. >> i see. so their opening position is the one that was vigorously debated and comprehensively defeated just three weeks ago. i guess the only question now is, wh
've been defeated on this. what has to change is their attitude on this. >> oh, is john boehner going to be pissed when he finds out mitt romney lost the election. if they let him out of that time machine, he might be something. the thing i find humorous about this, as well as about the whole issue of taxes and whether or not we should repeal the bush tax cuts, is that republicans do seem to have decided that the election that just happened didn't really happen. and that they are going to propose pretty much all of mitt romney's ideas as their negotiating starting point. well, we just -- >> we needed paul ryan actually to help get the job done. >> even having paul ryan talk about it. it's amazing. they decided while mitt romney lost the election, his ideas, they think won. i don't know how they get there. >> i feel like what they're trying to do is say, we lost, never mind but we're going to keep doing what we do. if we keep saying it enough, maybe -- >> i read that -- john boehner's op-ed pretty carefully. here's one thing he said. he said there are three ways to take down obama care
the republicans agree with the president? well, that about turned speaker john boehner's blood into a red river valley of rage. >> i told tom earlier in our conference meeting that i disagreed with him. you're not going to grow the economy if you raise tax rates on the top -- on the top two rates. it will hurt small businesses. will hurt our economy. >> taxing the rich hurts small business, yes, the very familiar offerings of one mitt romney. losing presidential candidate. who will be enjoying a free government lunch tomorrow at the white house at the invitation of the president. not sure what will be on the menu, but many are betting on a generous serving of crow with a beet salad. let's go to our panel, with him y william cohen, and here in new york is msnbc political analyst jonathan alter, also a columnist for the "bloomberg view." the president is pressing his case hard for a deal on middle class tax relief. secretary geithner will head to the hill. is john boehner now facing the rising tide against his yacht owners and the like? >> i think he is. a 60-37 margin on supporting raising taxes
reid and speaker john boehner by phone on saturday when you see him this week he will be getting by with a little help from his friends ordinary unelected americans. joining us professor of economics at the university of michigan justin wool fers. great to see you. before i ask for your economic analysis i want to pose one question to my colleagues in new york, that is really about the optics of the president going straight forward and straight to the kisser as it were on the bush tax cuts, not really even talking about the fiscal cliff or the debt limit which looms in february or march. >> as we know there is no real fiscal cliff. it's more of a curve or a mole hill. it's serious and real but not going over the cliff. if there is something of a cliff-like situation, it's playing to the president's advantage. december 31st what he doesn't want, the bush tax cuts for the rich, will be gone. they'll also be gone with the middle-class tax cuts. two years ago the republicans tried to hold the president hostage and said listen, if you don't give us the bush high-end tax cuts we're not
-- but hurry, the offer ends on. stuart: john boehner said he is optimistic that the fiscal cliff negotiations will speak successful. use the word optimistic. market coming back a little on that. as we told you earlier forbes saying that 11 states are in a death spiral. their words. don't buy house in the 11 states, don't invest in their municipal-bond. joiiing us from one of those states is scott kennedy in chicago, ill.. what do you make of that? >> i totally agree. i am not going to buy another house in this state ever again and as markets said, at some point we will run out of spending other people's money. we can support the maxes with the tax rate here and obamacare on top of that. we are in a death spiral and more people will be leaving the state. stuart: i think you are a lifelong illinois guy and you are saying you would never again buy house in this state? really? >> do you know what the real-estate taxes are here? astronomical land set to go higher so we are going to be taxing those who bought houses already. people are not going to buy any more but they can't rent either because no
place between just two people: house speaker john boehner and the president. boehner and the president spoke by phone on saturday, agreeing not to share details. but senate republican leader mitch mcconnell said today the g.o.p. wants the president to make the first move and issue a proposal to raise tax revenue and cut spending. >> this he's the only one who can lead his party to do something they wouldn't ordinarily do. to do what's actually needed now. >> reporter: prominent republicans are signaling they're now flexible on increasing tax revenue, with a few in the house and senate distancing themselves from that no tax increase pledge that many of them signed, a pledge created by lobbyist grover norquist. house majority leader eric cantor, senator lindsey graham of south carolina and senator saxby chambliss of georgia all said there could be an increase in tax revenue if democrats agreed to controlling the cost of medicare and medicaid. >> there's a right way to do this and there's a wrong way to do it. but at the end of the day, nancy what's got to happen is whoever's right or wro
the president has to say today? >> reporter: speaker john boehner just had a news conference on capitol hill and he expressed frustration because he is saying look, republicans put some tax revenues on the table but what they see the democratic side trying to pull entitlement reforms like medicare off the table. john boehner basically saying he thinks the spending situation is sort of a freight train that is coming at the nation right now. republicans senator mitch mism the leader in the senate -- mitch mcconnell blasted the president of saying he is doing is too much campaigning and not governing. take a listen. >> it is over. he won. congratulations. we have a hard deadline here however. and it is still, he is still out on the campaign trail, kind of celebrating. this is the problem. if the president really wants to reach an dwreechlt he needs to be talking with members of his own party right here in washington trying to broker an agreement, not out there firing up crowds and giving speeches. >> reporter: now the bottom line when you listen to comments like that it is pretty clear both sid
the debt limit unless forced to by john boehner. >> and by the way, john boehner is talking about having to get the majority of a majority on tax issues. he's not going to get a majority of majority on debt raising. >> much harder on the debt ceiling than taxes. >> that's what i'm saying. i refuse to vote to raise a debt ceiling when they were trying to raise it to $5 trillion. it's something you don't do unless you get a lot of cuts on the other side. >> and it's not a game. because if you don't raise it, we saw what happened last time, you can get your debt downgraded and has real economic consequenc consequences. and that's why when people think about the fiscal cliff, we all assume that sane minds will prevail and they'll come up with some deal. there's no guarantee that sane minds will prevail. and recent history would suggest that sanity almost never prevails in washington. so you can assume it's going to be more difficult than we think. you can assume that the bush tax cuts might all go away for a short period of time. and you cannot assume they just raise the debt limit. you cann
house speaker john boehner and harry reid this weekend for avoid efforts on fiscal cliff. on wednesday president obama will seek more input from top ceos, including gold man's lloyd blankfein and caterpillar's doug owner hill man. a number will travel to washington to try to reach a deficit cutting deal as part of the fix the debt campaign. so all things fiscal cliff still pre-dominate. we have a time clock that's quickly running out. how important is it that we get an agreement before the end of the year? >> this is like the debt ceiling argument. people got into a panic. that's something we even imposed on ourselves to decide that the debt shouldn't go too high. so it's not a bad thing. same with the fiscal cliff. what are we saying with the fiscal cliff? we're saying the economy might be revealed to be what it's actually doing because we'll take away the artificial supports because we think it's held any enough now to maybe after itself. that might entail a step drop because at the moment we're giving these tax breaks, but we're doing it out of our saving. >> but the point isn't jus
or a republican, this should be priority number one, it's when john boehner had the new freshman tea partiers come in in 2010 and facing the debt ceiling, he characterized the first adult moment for the new freshmen congressmen and i think this is the second adult moment. can we get beyond party politics and rigid ideology and come with a compromise that will benefit the american people? we need both to look seriously at spending cuts and revenue generation for the country right now. >> all right, so let's-- >> and let's put a couple of ideas on the table and angela, i'm surprised you would say obamacare should not be on the block, and what do you think should be on the block? what kind of-- if we're talking about spending here, where would you want to make cuts, angela? >> well, first of all, we should cut the wasteful spending that we have with the department of education, with the department of energy, i can go down the list, but rick, the reason why i don't want obamacare on the table. it will politicize this process, in 2010 congress had referendum on obamacare and that's why the republicans
strategy, gladly paying you tuesday for a hamburger today. house speaker john boehner insists the republicans are willing to work with the mt. offering the tax revenues if significant spending cuts are part of the deal. is social security on table? should it be? we hear from the experts tonight. -up ambassador -- u.n. ambassador susan rice met on a charm offensive to explain comments after the libya terror attack, where she blamed the non-existent demonstration sparked by anti-islam video. "special report" from washington starts at 6:00 eastern. now back to new york and my kriegs with "the five." ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> brian: i'm going with eric to pick my own music. [ laughter ] power ball hysteria is in full force today with hours to go before tonight's historic drawing. tonight could be your night. $4,550,000,000 up for -- $500 million up for grabs. second in lotto history. some times thing turn bad for winners, most of the time. there is a so-called lottery murder in tampa, florida. that's one you turned bad. the story has abraham shakespeare. $30 million lottery in 2006. kill
. >> obama did come to table on certain things, as did john boehner, unfortunat unfortunatea tea party guys came to the table. neil: that is mark. >> once again year irrelevant. this is the tea party guys fault. this is against mainstream, all of them want big spending, that is what they are looking for, maintaining a big government is in their interest, people cannotment it any more despite electoral results exit polling show people' less deficit, less debt they are worried about long terlong-term financial security. >> they said they would like to raise taxes on 1% of earners. >> they are so evil. >> thank you very much. you might have heard about this you get a blue flu shot every year this time, what if i told you, there is a place, you don't you, there is a place, you don't get a flu with the spark cash card from capital one, sven gets great rewards for his small business! how does this thing work? oh, i like it! [ garth ] sven's small business earns 2% cash back on every purche, everday! woo-hoo!!! so that's ten security gators, right? put them on my spark card! why settle for less? t
to meet our needs what is interesting is we have representative john boehner talking about putting obamacare in the fiscal cliff discussion and they did not come downie their way on that but they are stepping out talking about the urgent need to fix the fiscal cliff. >> these companies have two strikes against the. the fiscal cliff and obamacare and reliant on prescriptions for elderly. liz: it is not generic but cheap drugs, being fixed. again and again i am watching the slow parade of ceos and companies, you see the usual suspects. is striking to see walgreen's and cvs because these guys don't discuss public policy and i don't think it is to butter up the guys in washington. i don't think any a seat at the table. dave: when you said she drug all of our crew looked up. what is going on? i don't know. i just throw that in. see you later. coming up next a look at the important news on the radar for next week that will be moving markets. tracy: black friday shoppers need to be extra careful in the parking lots and it is not because i am there. [ male announcer ] how do you tde? with
. interestingly enough, moments ago we heard from someone within mitch mcconnell's party, speaker john boehner, saying he thinks a deal is possible. take a listen. >> it's time for the president and democrats to get serious about the spending problem that our country has. but i'm optimistic. >> he's optimistic. we also have boehner saying he is disagreeing with tom cole, one of the few republicans who have come out to usual his party to strike a deal. right now, get this done. keeping the bush tax cults for 98% of americans, give up on keeping tax cuts low for the wealthy, 2%. take a listen to what cole on capitol hill had to say moments ago. >> in my view, we all agree that we're not going to raise taxes on people who make less than $250,000. we should take them out of this discussion right now and continue to fight against any rate increase, continue to try to work honestly for a much bigger deal. >> has the tipping point been reached, sir? is the compromise in front of us right now because so many republicans are willing to talk act revenue? >> well, look. tom cole, who is a friend of mine,
't they have to be reformed or modified? >> i think the john boehner and mitch mcconnell are going to have a tough sell in front of the american people and a reason why paul ryan was a pretty unpopular vice-presidential candidate. people do not want to cut those programs. >> gregg: and during the 2008 presidential debate, the president promised and i looked it up and double-checked it today, he promised that he would have entitlement reform accomplished and put forth by the end of his first term. hasn't done it. why not? >> well, i think we need to talk about smart cuts first, and what that means is getting rid of waste and fraud and abuse. it means getting rid of these things. >> gregg: he's breaking his promise, isn't he? >> i don't know that that's right. i think when we talked. >> gregg: i watched the debate today, they had a clip. >> sure. >> gregg: of it on youtube, you can take a look at it. and there are 258 americans signed onto the grover norquist pledge never to quote for a tax hike, closing tax loopholes. speaker boehner says i'm willing to break it and do the latter on deducti
'm looking for is more revenue for entitlement reform. >> and john boehner's called for a short term fix to overt the fiscal cliff so congress can work on on a bigger deal in 2013. but in an op-ed, republican senator bob corker says both sides need to carve out a $4 trillion package that includes both revenue hikes and spending cuts by the end of the year. >>> still to come, the miss crest shopping day of the year for online retailers. snapping up deals on big ike ket item. we'll get a look. having you ship my gifts couldn't be easier. well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and a santa to boot! [ chuckles ] right, baby. oh, sir. that is a customer. oh...sorry about that. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. >>> today is cyber monday. analysts say it's not as big a day as it's been in past. so many people shopping online over the weekend. but com score still says sales might reach $1.5 billion. pierce, sunday it earlier, consumers appear to be on fire. >> kind of defies gravity a little bit. but with the consumer confidence data in the last three months,
the opposite of the way they've negotiated inside with john boehner and others on past deals. >> yeah, the president feels he has very strong cards here and one of the strategies of the white house is that if we go over the cliff, if all those tax cuts are allowed to expire, the president has real ways to extract pain from the republicans. polls already show people are more likely to blame republicans and here's something very important. republican leaders know that. joe scarborough writes on politico right now that when eric cantor, the number two house republican was there on your set, that he noticed a different tone from him and seeing more and more signs of that as the week goes along, the republican leaders recognize that the president has an inaugural address, a state of the union address and a lot of high-profile ways to pin the blame on them and so today we have this remarkable movement position by tom cole, one of the most politically savvy republicans who told their whip team that they would be better off to cave, that they would be better off to give what he calls the earl
, what house speaker john boehner will be and the closed-door negotiations which we will get a sense of but probably not the back and forth. jon: 36 days left to get the deal done, most of those days in december when not a lot usually happens in washington. it will be interesting . thanks for watching it for us brett. you can catch brett every we can night 6pm eastern bret baier anchors special report. jenna: a new report that iran is sending weapons and supplies to help the regime in syria. iraq is allowing iran to fly the convoys through the air space. leland vittert joins us live in jerusalem. how is this working? >> reporter: essentially what is going on here, general ace the iranians want some way to get weapons, ammunition and men over to the syrian regime. they can't fly north through turkey, they are flying through iraq that is despite the u.s. asking iraq to close down air space to these kinds of flights. this is video that's been confirmed to fox news by western intelligence sources showing iranian revolutionary guard troops getting off of cargo troops that view via iraqi a
% of americans. >> house republican speaker john boehner says the gop is looking for a deal that cuts spending and closes tax loopholes and some deductions rather than raising tax rates. back to you guys in new york. >> steve: all right. north lawn of the white house, thank you. >> gretchen: see how we all got the blue memo? we all look so nice together. she had on a blue scarf. >> brian: the question is, what is laura ingraham wearing. >> steve: i know one way to find out. >> gretchen: oh, yellow. hail to sweden. >> steve: how are you? >> hey, guys. nice to see you. >> steve: what did you make of this, the white house is saying unless the republicans roll over and do everything that the white house wants with this fiscal cliff at the conclusion of the year, you mean old republicans will ruin christmas economically for the country? >> yeah. it's the gop who stole christmas. who is going to be narrating this? who will play the dog with the fake antlers? it seems we've seen this special before. the sky is always falling when president obama wants to cram down legislation or initiatives without r
and john boehner to bring their wings of the parties back in for any sort of a deal. because it seems like both sides are getting their back up at this point. >> well, i don't think it's making it more difficult, becky. i think what happens is at the beginning of a negotiation, everybody is sort of staking out their positions and their demands. you know, the demand by democrats, for example, that social security and medicare not be part of this discussion, that's not a sustainable demand. everybody knows that entitlement programs, the president has said so, have to be part of this. now, exactly what proportion and when they're part of it, those are things that you can talk about, but, no, they are part of this deal. so are tax increases, and, you know, republicans taking out the position that, well, we can't touch tax rates, we can touch tax loopholes, everybody's got to wait and see how the math adds up. this is an extremely complicated and difficult thing. >> i don't think -- i don't think it's well done to be negotiating in public like this because it only makes it more difficult. i wis
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